Monday, May 24, 2021

Jan 6th Coup?


In today's Farm episode, returning guest James Scaminaci III makes his case for the events of January 6th being a full-blown coup attempt orchestrated by the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys. Over the course of this interview we cover the background of the Oath Keepers; the command & control structure used by both groups that day; their battle plan; and most importantly, explain what the objective was. From there, we get into whether the security was adequate. the strange series of events involving General Charles Flynn (the brother of Michael) on the 6th, and a general account of the military's behavior that day. 

James has also graciously allowed me to republish the diagrams he's drawn up to explain the strategy of the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys as well as his written responses to my questions. Note: This is not an actual transcript of the interview, but notes Scaminaci made for the interview. I thought reposting them would provide further insight. As always, I hope you guys enjoy. 

 

Questions

Okay, to start off with, let's talk some Oath Keepers for a moment. John Brisson and I did a show on the Proud Boys last year, so my listeners have some degree of familiarity with them. We haven't touched on the Oath Keepers yet, though I expect a full length expose' is in the near future. For now though, could you give us a quick rundown of the organization's history?

THE OATH KEEPERS ARE A PRODUCT OF A “SECRET” RON PAUL AND GARY NORTH STRATEGY DEVELOPED IN 2008 THAT INCLUDED STARTING A VERSION OF THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT. RHODES WAS PART OF THE RON PAUL PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN AND HE IS THE FOUNDER OF OATH KEEPERS. I EXPLAINED IN A PAPER THAT EARLY ON RHODES HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN SETTING UP WITH RICHARD MACK WHAT BECAME THE CONSTITUTIONAL SHERIFFS AND PEACE OFFICERS ASSOCATION OR CSPOA.

WHAT MAKES THE OATH KEEPERS UNIQUE IS THAT THEY OPENLY RECRUIT ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY AND POLICE, AS WELL AS VETERANS AND RETIRED MILITARY AND POLICE. THEIR OBJECTIVE IS TO PRODUCE A FIFTH COLUMN OF CHAOS AGENTS WITHIN THE MILITARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. THEY WANT TO USE ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY AND POLICE TO BREACH THE OPERATIONAL SECURITY OF THEIR UNITS.

ALL THE OATH KEEPERS TEN ORDERS THEY WILL NOT OBEY ARE ABOUT HELPING A STATE TO SECEDE FROM THE UNION. THEY ARE NOT ABOUT THE NEW WORLD ORDER. THOSE TEN ORDERS MAY COME WRAPPED AROUND OR WITHIN THE NEW WORLD ORDER CONSPIRACY THEORY, BUT THAT IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF THOSE TEN ORDERS.

ONE WOULD HOPE THAT EVENTUALLY PEOPLE WHO REPORT ON THE OATH KEEPERS WILL FIGURE THIS BASIC FACT OUT.

THEY PROMOTE THE IMAGE THAT THEY ARE REMAINING FAITHFUL TO THEIR OATHS, THAT THEY ARE WALKING HAND-IN-HAND WITH THE FOUNDING FATHERS, AND THAT THEY ARE THE LAST LINE OF DEFENSE IN GUARDING THE REPUBLIC. IT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

THEY ARE A FOURTH GENERATION WARFARE ELEMENT WITHIN THE PATRIOT SPHERE TIED TO THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT AND DESIGNED TO UNDERMINE THE LEGITIMACY OF THE MILITARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND CERTAINLY JEOPARDIZE THEIR OPERATIONAL SECURITY.


While both organizations are militant, the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers clearly have different approaches to combat. Can you briefly address the difference in tactics? 

THE PROUD BOYS ARE STREET FIGHTERS. THEY ARE THE ONES IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH ANTIFA IN STREET BATTLES. THEY ARE THE RIGHT-WING’S HEAVY INFANTRY. THEY HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED AS THE “FIGHTING ARM” OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. IF YOU ARE A RIGHT-WINGER AND WANTING TO PUT FIST-TO-CHIN, THEN THE PROUD BOYS WOULD BE THE GROUP TO JOIN.

STEWART RHODES PUT THE OATH KEEPERS INTO AN OPERATIONAL STRAIT JACKET. THEY HAVE TO BE SEEN, AT LEAST UP UNTIL JANUARY 6, 2021, AS UPHOLDING THEIR OATHS TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. THEY CAN PROVIDE SECURITY AT PROUD BOYS STREET BRAWLS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT PERCEIVE THE PROUD BOYS AS WHITE NATIONALIST OR WHITE SUPREMACIST OR AS NEO-NAZIS.

THE OATH KEEPERS GO TO THESE STREET PROTESTS, WHETHER THEY ERUPT IN FIGHTS OR NOT, TO PROVIDE “SECURITY” FOR BOTH SIDES. TO “PROTECT FREE SPEECH.” RHODES WANTS TO PRETEND THAT THE OATH KEEPERS ARE NEUTRAL PROTECTORS. THEY GO ARMED WITH LONG BARREL WEAPONS THAT, IF THEY USED, THEY WOULD BE ARRESTED FOR MURDER OR MANSLAUGHTER.

SO, THEY LOOK TOUGH IN THEIR TACTICAL OUTFITS AND LONG BARREL WEAPONS. THEY LOOK LIKE THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING BY BEING PRESENT. BUT THEY ARE LARGELY BYSTANDERS. IN TERMS OF A STREET FIGHT, THE OATH KEEPERS ARE ESSENTIALLY USELESS.

AND BECAUSE OF THESE DIFFERENCES IN FIGHTING CULTURE AND TACTICS, THE OATH KEEPERS NEED THE PROUD BOYS ON JANUARY 6. AND I THINK THE PROUD BOYS NEED THE OATH KEEPERS ON JANUARY 6.



Let's go over the command and control structures used by the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers during the Capitol riots. We'll start with the Proud Boys. What kind of communications were they using, where was the command center, and so forth?

PROUD BOYS USED SEVERAL COMMUNICATION PLATFORMS, THOUGH THE FBI HAS RELIED PRIMARILY, ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY ON THE TWO TELEGRAM CHANNELS: “NEW MOSD” AND “BOOTS ON THE GROUND.” THE FBI DISCLOSED TO NORDEAN’S DEFENSE THAT THEY EXTRACTED OVER 200,000 PDF PAGES OF TELEGRAM MESSAGES. SO, WHAT IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD IS AN EXTREMELY SMALL FRACTION OF THOSE MESSAGES.

THE “NEW MOSD” CHANNEL HAD LESS THAN 10 PARTICIPANTS. “NEW MOSD” WAS RESERVED FOR THE LEADERSHIP. THE “BOOTS ON THE GROUND” HAD AT LEAST 60 PARTICIPANTS. THE PROUD BOYS ALSO DISTRIBUTED SOME BAOFENG RADIOS. THEY ALSO USED THE ZELLO APPLICATION, BUT WE DO NOT KNOW WHICH CHANNEL THEY USED, IF THEY DID.

OATH KEEPERS ALSO USED THE ZELLO APPLICATION, BUT THAT WAS FOR DECEPTION BROADCASTS, NOT OPERATIONAL BROADCASTS.

THE FBI DISCLOSED THAT AT LEAST TWO PROUD BOYS—UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR-1 AND PERSON-2 WERE AT AN UNSPECIFIED LOCATION MONITORING ALL PROUD BOYS AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS.

How about the Oath Keepers?

THE OATH KEEPERS KEPT THEIR QUICK REACTION FORCE AT THE COMFORT INN BALLSTON IN ARLINGTON, VA.

THE ACTUAL LOCATION OF THEIR TACTICAL OPERATIONS CENTER IS NOT KNOWN.

DURING THE ATTACK, THE OATH KEEPERS USED A SIGNAL CHANNEL: “DC OP JAN 6 21.” THEY APPARENTLY USED THIS SIGNAL CHANNEL BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THE JANUARY 6 ATTACK.

THEY ALSO USED THE “GO TO MEETING” APPLICATION TO DO PRE-ATTACK COORDINATION AMONG VARIOUS OATH KEEPERS LEADERS IN FLORIDA AND AROUND THE COUNTRY.


Now, you think both outfits had their command and control centers near one another, correct? 

IT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE THAT THEY HAD TWO DIFFERENT, NOT CO-LOCATED TACTICAL OPERATIONS CENTERS. BUT I THINK THE PHONE CALLS THAT PERSON TEN MADE TO JOSHUA JAMES SUGGEST THAT HE WAS GETTING INFORMATION FROM THE PROUD BOYS IN NEAR REAL-TIME, SUGGESTING TO ME THAT PERSON TEN WAS EITHER INSIDE THE PROUD BOYS TACTICAL OPERATIONS CENTER OR HE WAS A SILENT PARTICIPANT ON THEIR “NEW MOSD” SIGNAL CHANNEL.

FOR EXAMPLE, AT 1414H JOSHUA JAMES SAYS ON THE OATH KEEPERS SIGNAL CHANNEL: “THEY HAVE TAKEN GROUND AT THE CAPITOL.” THAT COMES ABOUT ONE MINUTE AFTER HE HAD RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM PERSON TEN. WE KNOW THAT THE PROUD BOYS WERE IN THE CAPITOL BUILDING BY 1414H.

DOMINIC PEZZOLA BEGINS SMASHING THE WINDOWS IN THE NORTHWEST COURTYARD AROUND 1412H. JUST BEHIND HIM IS PROUD BOY LEADER JOSEPH BIGGS WHO USES THE “NEW MOSD” CHANNEL. BIGGS IS APPARENTLY DIRECTING THE TRANSIENT 2 ATTACK. BY 1413H PEZZOLA IS THROUGH THE WINDOW SO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OBVIOUS TO THE PROUD BOYS LEADERS ON THE “NEW MOSD” CHANNEL THAT THE BREACH WAS IMMINENT AND THE MAGA RIOTERS WITH THEM WERE ABOUT TO ENTER THE BUILDING. BIGGS WALKS THROUGH THE DOOR AT ABOUT 1414H.

THUS IT IS REALLY CURIOUS THAT AT 1414H JOSHUA JAMES IS COMMUNICATING WITH ALL THE OTHER OATH KEEPERS ON THEIR SIGNAL CHANNEL, “THEY HAVE TAKEN GROUND AT THE CAPITOL” AND THAT IT IS TIME TO GET THE VIP SECURITY DETAIL READY TO GO.

You believe the Oath Keepers even had their ground commander in the Proud Boy's Tactical Operations Command, correct?

I DO.

Okay, so take us through the Proud Boys' recon efforts at the onset of the protests on January 6th.

AT 1000H, ALL THE PROUD BOYS MEET AT THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT FOR A SHORT BRIEFING. CHARLES DONOHOE, ONE OF THE TOP PROUD BOYS LEADERS, IS AT THE MONUMENT MAYBE 90 MINUTES BEFOREHAND WITH ABOUT 15 OTHER PROUD BOYS.

SHORTLY AFTER 1000H, ALL THE PROUD BOYS LEAVE THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT AND BEGIN WALKING TOWARDS THE CAPITOL BUILDING.

ON FIGURE 15, YOU SEE THEY REACH UNION SQUARE AT 1113H. BY THE WAY, THESE TIMES ARE TAKEN FROM THE EDDIE BLOCK VIDEOS THAT INSURGENT HUNTER POSTED AT THE JANUARY 6 EVIDENCE WEBSITE. I USED THE START AND STOP OF THE SEGMENTS AS THE APPROXIMATION OF TIME.

THEY THEN MARCH WITH A VERY LARGE CROWD, MAYBE 200 PEOPLE, MAYBE A BIT MORE OR A BIT LESS TO THE PEACE MONUMENT ON THE PENNSYLVANIA WALKWAY. THAT IS THE LOCATION OF TRANSIENT 1. THEY WILL RETURN TO THIS VERY LOCATION AT 1253H TO LAUNCH THE ATTACK AGAINST THE USCP POLICE AND CAPITOL BUILDING. FACING THE CAPITOL BUILDING FROM THE PEACE MONUMENT TO THEIR LEFT IS THE NORTHWEST STAIRS. THAT IS TRANSIENT 2. SO, ON THIS PART OF THE MARCH THEY CAN SEE AT LEAST TRANSIENT 1 AND HAVE AN IDEA WHERE TRANSIENT 2 IS.

THEY THEN WALK DOWN CONSTITUTION AVENUE, TURN RIGHT, WALK ON THE LAWN AND ARRIVE CLOSE TO THE EAST PLAZA CENTER STEPS WHICH LEAD TO THE COLUMBUS DOORS. THAT IS TRANSIENT 3. THEY THEN POSE FOR AN ICONIC PHOTO TAKEN BY JON CHERRY OF GETTY IMAGES.

THEY RETURN TO CONSTITUTION AVENUE AND EAT AT THE FOOD TRUCKS. THEY KEEP GOING BACK TOWARD THE PEACE MONUMENT AND AT 1253H START THE ATTACK AND AT 1255H INCITE THE CROWD TO ATTACK THE USCP AT THE SECOND POLICE BARRIER.




The Oath Keepers allegedly did no recon of their own, which struck you as quite strange. Can you get into that?

THE OATH KEEPERS DO NO RECONNAISSANCE. THEY KEEP TO THEIR COVER STORY THAT THEY WERE THERE TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR VIPS. SO, THEY SIT IN THE VIP SECTION AND LISTEN TO ONE SPEECH AFTER ANOTHER. AT EXACTLY 1253H, ACCORDING TO THE NEW YORK TIMES, AN UNIDENTIFIED OATH KEEPER THE FBI CALLS #228, LEADS THE OATH KEEPERS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF TRUMP’S SPEECH. THEY MARCH DOWN CONSTITUTION AVENUE AND WAIT ON THE LAWN OR THE TARMAC ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CAPITOL. AND THEY WAIT FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN. NUMBER #228 AT 1400H IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CENTRAL EAST STEPS WITH KEN HARRELSON. THOSE TWO WILL EVENTUALLY GUIDE “THE STACK” LED BY KELLY MEGGS UP THE STAIRS TO AND THROUGH THE COLUMBUS DOORS ON TRANSIENT 3.

AND I ARGUE IN THE PAPER THAT THIS BIZARRE BEHAVIOR—SIMPLY SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN—MAKES NO SENSE UNLESS THEY HAD PRE-PLANNED AND PRE-COORDINATED WITH THE PROUD BOYS.

Now, you've argued that the Proud Boys were behind the initial assault on the capital that resulted in the breach. Can you take us through how they managed this?

THEY INCITE THE CROWD, SPECIFICALLY THERE IS A RYAN SAMSEL WHO IS INDICTED FOR MAKING THE FIRST BREACH PAST THE PLASTIC FENCING TO THE SECOND BARRIER OF BIKE RACKS WHERE HE ALLEGEDLY KNOCKS A USCP INTO A CONCUSSION. THAT IS AT 1255H. THE CROWD THEN SURGES UP TO THE THIRD BARRIER OF BIKE RACKS WHERE WILLIAM PEPE AND ANOTHER PROUD BOY DISMANTLE THOSE RACKS. AND THEN THE CROWD COMES FACE-TO-FACE TO WITH THE FIRST LINE US CAPITOL POLICE AT THE LOWER WEST PLAZA STEPS. RYAN SAMSEL RE-APPEARS TO ENRAGE THE CROWD. PROUD BOYS LEADERS AND MEMBERS ARE IN THE CLOSE VICINITY TO A NUMBER OF FIGHTS INVOLVING A GUY NAMED CHRISTOPHER QUAGLIN. IT IS NOT CLEAR WHETHER HE IS BEING INCITED BY THE PROUD BOYS OR HE IS COORDINATING WITH THEM. IT CERTAINLY APPEARS TO BE COORDINATED FIGHTING.

FOR THE NEXT HOUR OR SO, THERE IS A LOT OF YELLING AT THE POLICE. SOME SKIRMISHES. SOME ESCALATION IN THE FIGHTING. AND FINALLY THE PROUD BOYS SLIDE FROM THAT CONFRONTATION TO THE NORTHWEST STAIRS AND BREACH THE POLICE LINES ON THE WAY TO THE NORTHWEST COURTYARD AND THE BREACH ON THE SENATE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.



The Oath Keepers do not appear to have been present when the assault began. Rather, they were observing Trump's speech at the Ellipse. They appear to have begun to depart once word of the capital assault reached them. From there, they headed towards the rioting in what you describe as a "stack" formation. What is that?

A STACK FORMATION IS A MILITARY OR POLICE FORMATION WHERE THE PERSONNEL ARE LINED UP DIRECTLY BEHIND EACH OTHER. IT IS USED TO TRAVERSE WALLS OR TO ENTER ROOMS. SINCE THE SOLDIERS ARE ARMED, THEY MAY HAVE THEIR WEAPONS CLOSE TO THE SHOULDER OF THE PERSON IN FRONT OF THEM. FOR THE OATH KEEPERS, IT MADE SENSE TO USE THAT FORMATION TO SNAKE THEIR WAY THROUGH THE CROWD ON THE EAST CENTRAL PLAZA STEPS SO THAT THEY KEPT TOGETHER AND DID NOT LOSE ANYONE GOING UP THE STAIRS.

Now, these Oath Keepers were effectively a full-blown paramilitary force and kitted accordingly. What was their role?

APPARENTLY, SINCE THEIR IMMEDIATE OBJECTIVE WAS TO GET TO THE SENATE CHAMBER, IT APPEARS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO ARREST SENATORS. CERTAINLY, THAT COMES ACROSS ON A ZELLO MESSAGE TO WATKINS.

BUT AS TO THEIR SPECIFIC OBJECTIVE ONCE THEY ENTERED I THINK IT WAS GENERALLY TO STOP THE CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTORAL COUNT. I DO BELIEVE THEY MAY HAVE INTENDED TO ARREST SOME SENATORS.

You believe the overall battle plan was modeled upon the Battle of Leuctra, which was fought between Thebes and Sparta in 371 BC. Can you give us an overview of that battle first?

IT IS AN EXAMPLE OF A SINGLE ENVELOPMENT ATTACK. BUT WHAT MAKES IT SPECIAL IS HOW AN OUTNUMBERED FORCE USES THE UNEQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF POWER TO BEAT A LARGER FORCE. ESSENTIALLY, THEY PRODUCE THEIR STRENGTH AGAINST THEIR OPPONENT’S WEAKNESS TO BREAK THROUGH THE ENEMY AND THEN ATTACK AND DESTROY THE ENEMY FROM THE REAR. WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE PROUD BOYS AND THE OATH KEEPERS ATTEMPTED TO DO.

IN FACT, KELLY MEGGS IN FACEBOOK MESSAGES SENT TO A PRESUMABLY VERY TRUSTED PERSON EXPLAINED A SINGLE-ENVELOPMENT TWO-TRANSIENT ATTACK. IN THAT ATTACK, THE OATH KEEPERS WOULD BE MARCHING BEHIND THE PROUD BOYS, SWING AROUND PAST THE POLICE AND ANTIFA, AND ATTACK ANTIFA FROM THE REAR.

IF YOU SUBSTITUTE CAPITOL BUILDING FOR ANTIFA, IT IS CLEAR WHAT KELLY MEGGS IS DESCRIBING.



So, how did the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys adopt it for the siege of the capital?


How about Steward Rhodes, the head of the Oath Keepers? You believe he was involved in the activities of the Oath Keepers present at the Capitol that day, right?

STEWART RHODES, NOW FAMOUS FOR BEING “PERSON ONE,” WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE EVENTS ON JANUARY 6 AND BEFORE JANUARY 6.

THE QUICK REACTION FORCE IN WASHINGTON DC WAS HIS IDEA. HE ADVOCATED FOR A QRF IN DC FOR THE NOVEMBER “STOP THE STEAL” RALLY. THERE WAS PROBABLY A QRF IN DC FOR THE DECEMBER RALLY.

HE APPOINTED “PERSON TEN” TO BE THE OVERALL COMMANDER FOR THE JANUARY 6 ATTACK.

DURING THE ATTACK, HE CALLED FOR AND SENT A PHOTOGRAPH TO THE OATH KEEPERS ON THEIR SIGNAL CHAT TO COME TO THE SOUTHEAST STEPS. IT IS A MOVE WHICH MADE NO TACTICAL SENSE WHATSOEVER. FROM 1359H, WHEN THE CROWD ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CAPITOL BREACHED THE POLICE BARRIERS, THEY IGNORED BOTH THE NORTHEAST AND THE SOUTHEAST STEPS AND WENT STRAIGHT FOR THE CENTRAL STEPS LEADING TO THE COLUMBUS DOORS AND THEN INTO THE ROTUNDA.


In reading your analysis, I'm left with the impression that the principal purpose of the Proud Boys was to provide a diversion, clearing the way for the more elite Oath Keepers to attack the Capitol at one of its more vulnerable points. Is that what you were NATION THAT THE OATH KEEPERS AND THE PROUD BOYS DEVELOPED A JOINT PLAN Ttrying to convey, and if so, does this indicate that the Oath Keepers were likely the ones directing the Proud Boys? 

I ARGUE IN PART 5 ON PLANNING AND COORDIO ATTACK THE CAPITOL BUILDING.

KELLY MEGGS IN ABOUT 3 FACEBOOK MESSAGES TO PRESUMABLY TRUSTED PERSONS STATED AS FACT THAT HE HAD “ORGANIZED AN ALLIANCE” BETWEEN THE OATH KEEPERS, FLORIDA 3%ERS, AND THE PROUD BOYS. THEY HAD AGREED TO “WORK TOGETHER” TO “SHUT DOWN THIS SHIT.”

HE THEN STATED ON FACEBOOK THAT “WE HAVE ORCHESTRATED A PLAN WITH THE PROUD BOYS.”

IN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FILING ON KELLY MEGGS, THE DOJ 4 TIMES USES THE WORD “COORDINATION” TO DESCRIBE WHAT MEGGS AND THE OATH KEEPERS ACCOMPLISHED.

BUT COORDINATION IS NOT THE CORRECT WORD.

ORCHESTRATED DOES NOT MEAN COORDINATED. TO ORCHESTRATE MEANS TO DEVELOP A FINAL PRODUCT, LIKE A MUSICAL SCORE OR COMPOSITION, THAT IS READY TO BE PLAYED. TO ORCHESTRATE IS TO DEVELOP A PLAN A COURSE OF ACTION TO ACCOMPLISH A SPECIFIC TASK.

ORCHESTRATION IS ABOUT A FINAL PRODUCT. AND THAT FINAL PRODUCT IN THIS CASE WAS A JOINT PLAN TO ATTACK THE CAPITOL BUILDING ON JANUARY 6.

AND MEGGS STATED AS A FACT THAT THIS “ORCHESTRATION” WAS DONE IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH ENRIQUE TARRIO, HEAD OF THE PROUD BOYS. THEY REDACTED TARRIO’S NAME, BUT HE IS THE ONLY LEADER OF THE PROUD BOYS.

SO, THE OATH KEEPERS AND PROUD BOYS ARE EQUAL PARTNERS IN THIS ORCHESTRATION OF A PLAN. IT IS A JOINT PLAN THAT WILL BE JOINTLY EXECUTED. THAT IS MY ARGUMENT.

IT IS THE MAGA CROWD THAT IS THE DIVERSION. HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE AGITATION OF THE PROUD BOYS ON TRANSIENT 1 ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CAPITOL, THE MAGA CROWD PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN CONTENT TO SCREAM AT THE POLICE AND THINK THAT IS WHAT TRUMP WANTED THEM TO DO.

THE PROUD BOYS AND OATH KEEPERS KNEW WHAT THEY HAD TO DO. THEY HAD TO BREACH THE CAPITOL BUILDING IN ORDER TO “SHUT THIS SHIT DOWN.” YOU COULD ONLY “STOP THE STEAL” FROM INSIDE THE CAPITOL BUILDING.

THE PROUD BOYS I THINK WERE CAREFUL NOT TO ASSAULT THE USCP AND MPD. ONLY WILLIAM CHRESTMAN IS SEEN SPRAYING THE POLICE WITH A CHEMICAL SPRAY. ONLY 3 PROUD BOYS ARE SEEN DESTROYING PROPERTY.

I AM NOT SAYING THAT TO MEAN THAT THE PROUD BOYS WERE BEING POLITE TOWARDS THE POLICE. I AM SAYING THAT THEIR PRIMARY MISSION WAS TO STOP THE CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE. THEIR SECONDARY MSSION WAS TO BREACH THE BUILDING. THEIR TERTIARY MISSION WAS TO INCITE THE CROWD TO A SUSTAINABLE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE.

THERE IS A TELEGRAM CHAT INVOLVING THREE PROUD BOYS LEADERS IN WHICH THEY ARE PLANNING TO INCITE THE MAGA CROWD. ONE LEADER STATES HE WANTS TO SEE “THOUSANDS OF NORMIES BURN THAT CITY TO ASH.” ANOTHER WANTS TO SEE THEM “SMASH SOME PIGS TO DUST.” AND A THIRD CLAIMS, “LET THEM LOOSE” IN RESPONSE TO AN EARLIER CLAIM THAT THE MAGA ARE A “PACK OF WILD DOGS” WITH “NO ADRENALINE CONTROL.”

THUS, ENRAGEMENT OF THE MAGA CROWD WAS ONE MISSION, NOT ASSAULTING THE POLICE THEMSELVES.

THE ONLY ACT OF VIOLENCE BY THE PROUD BOYS THAT MADE TACTICAL AND STRATEGIC SENSE WAS DONE BY PEZZOLA WHEN HE SMASHED OPEN THE WINDOWS AT THE NORTHWEST COURTYARD. PEZZOLA ACHIEVED THE INITIAL BREACH OF THE CAPITOL BUILDING ITSELF.

ONCE THE PROUD BOYS ENTERED THE BUILDING THROUGH THE NORTHWEST COURTYARD’S DOORS THEY MADE TWO TACTICAL MISTAKES THAT TURNED INTO CATASTROPHIC STRATEGIC FAILURES.

ONE, PEZZOLA GOES UP THE STAIRS TOWARDS THE SENATE CHAMBER AND FOLLOWS OFFICER GOODMAN TO OBLIVION. HAD PEZZOLA TURNED RIGHT AND LED THE CROWD INTO THE SENATE CHAMBER, AT 1415H+ THE SENATE FLOOR WOULD HAVE BEEN FILLED WITH MAGA RIOTERS ON LIVE NATIONAL TELEVISION WITH DONALD TRUMP WATCHING. THAT WOULD HAVE CHANGED THE ENTIRE DYNAMIC OF THE ATTACK FOR ALL THREE SIDES: THE PROUD BOYS, OATH KEEPERS, AND THE MAGA RIOTERS; THE SECRET SERVICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT; AND FOR DONALD TRUMP.

TWO, FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON, JOSEPH BIGGS, WHO WAS APPARENTLY DIRECTING THE TRANSIENT 2 ATTACK, DID NOT IMMEDIATELY HEAD TO ROTUNDA, TURN LEFT, AND FORCE THE COLUMBUS DOORS OPEN WITH OTHER PROUD BOYS. HAD HE DONE THAT IMMEDIATELY, THE OATH KEEPERS ARE INTO THE CAPITOL BUILDING AT ABOUT 1430H IN TIME TO DASH INTO A SENATE CHAMBER FILLED WITH THE MAGA RIOTERS, PROUD BOYS, AND OTHER ELEMENTS.

SO, THE PROUD BOYS WERE IN NO WAY A DIVERSION. THEY HAD TO BREACH TRANSIENT 2 AND BREACH TRANSIENT 3 AND THEN SHUTTING DOWN THE ELECTORAL COUNT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAR MORE TERRIFYING AND DANGEROUS TO THE SENATORS AND VICE PRESIDENT PENCE.

THE ENTIRE DYNAMIC OF THE ATTACK WOULD HAVE CHANGED FOR DONALD TRUMP. HE WOULD LITERALLY HAVE BEEN STARING AT HIS TELEVISION SET AND SEEING VICTORY IN SIGHT. IF TRUMP WAS DELIGHTED AT THE VISUALS OF THE ATTACK ON THE BUILDING, IMAGINE HIS ECSTASY AT SEEING HIS “STAND BACK AND STAND BY” PROUD BOYS, THE QANON CONSPIRACY MOVEMENT, AND THE OATH KEEPERS INSIDE THE SENATE CHAMBER BEATING UP SENATORS, ATTEMPTING TO ARREST SENATORS, AND ACCUSING THE SENATORS OF TRYING TO INSTALL A PRO-COMMUNIST CHINA PUPPET GOVERNMENT IN THE HANDS OF JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS.

15 comments:

  1. This is a really good breakdown! The other thing is the FBI informants within both the Oathkeepers and Proud Boys. What did they know and when did they know it? I hope folks are beginning to see that this was a deep event and that it was far more complex than just a mob of people storming the building.

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  2. Good grief, love the blog but this is just too much BS. Both organizations are heavily infiltrated and directed in part by the three letter agencies.

    Clearly MI was on the ground breaking windows and stirring shit up. The goal is to get these groups fighting with ANTIFA like groups in a similar situation as the Pre WWII Germany street fights between the Bolsheviks and the Brown shirts.

    Adolph was support by the same types, military, industrialists, and property owners.

    Most participants are just useful idiots thinking they are making a difference. Get a grip, the whole turd being spun by the media is a mental image imprinted on people minds which is hard left vs hard right.

    Who has the power to drive this? Ron Paul? really? You guys fell off the rocking chair and cannot get up.

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    1. I came here after listening just to see comments like this. I too cringed the entire episode.

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    2. Trump Derangement Syndrome is real.

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  3. Unbelievable, Leftish flavored, pants wetting nonsense.

    You guys need to climb out from under your bed, take a walk around the block and get some fresh air.

    Oath Keepers and Proud boys have been infiltrated and directed from the beginning.

    You think Ron Paul is some sort of mastermind?

    Meanwhile, our entire culture has been highjacked by Critical Race theory and Gender Queer destabilization, and all of corporate America, academia, the MSM, and even the military is on board with it.

    Your blatant leftist biases are blinding you to some rather obvious realities.

    It's a shame, because you do some interesting dot connecting on other issues.

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    1. you think people coloring their hair purple and cutting their dicks off is whats destabilizing our society?

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    2. When every major institution in the Western world celebrates crossdressing as "just another flavor" and demands the general population support it... or else, then we have fallen over the cliff and joined many other failed empires on the trash heap of history.

      We are a silly, decadent civilization that is no longer capable of recognizing boundaries, let alone enforcing them.

      We are not exempt from the common destiny of all collapsing civilizations, but go ahead and obsess over the nazis under the bed.

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    3. Its all boiling down to this. Fascism VS. Crossdressing: The Final Conflict! Which side are you on, boys? Are you squarely among the aggrieved crew of god-fearing, bible-thumping Greco-Roman Oathkeepers, the champions in grey cotton boxer shorts, led by wannabe MMA, ProudBoi streetfighters? Or maybe you're on the other side, rolling with Team Xerxes, living the elite global worldview in tight, pastel-colored briefs, embracing unabashed multicultural fetishism. Out and proud with facial piercings, and decadent fever dreams of freedom of expression, sexual pleasure, and of course, makeup for men.

      Great post Recluse, I enjoyed the previous Scaminaci interview as well, I was surprised to hear he wasn't aware of of the history of the Ong's Hat ARG until you mentioned it to him.

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  4. Hooo boy! The wing choosers sure popped off REAL quick with the appropriate culture-construct outrage. Now, this isn’t to say the interviewee reeks of obsfucating and conflating and then backing off super fast and hard from getting down & dirty at the end with that, “I don’t want to impugn his [Gen. Charles Flynn] integrity as a military officer without evidence.” When Scaminaci blurted this out I nearly spit back my blood orange Italian soda 😂😂. And then he backs that off, yes, not backs up but OFF by saying he thinks the military planning was ——“strange,” plus expounding by insinuating ignorance on the military’s part, and rounding back to reiterating not wanting to impugn the military.

    Yikes. And Steven, it’s a good thing you saved that query to the end because this might have been a 15-minute interview if you asked earlier and pressed the point. (But I LOVE that, “Really?? That’s interesting,” response. I just hope people realize that with your statement and then hyper-speed pivot to ending the interview, you just tossed most of dude’s premises under the bus 😂😂😂😂).

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  6. Good Work. Americans, if they wanted, could create their own commission - who needs the feds?

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  7. So, the Oath keepers are the SS and the proud boys are the Brown shirts, and trump is thr American Hitler!

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  8. I can't wait to get the chris Knowles mp3!

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  9. So you're using anonymous sources from the New York Times as a key foundation for the points you're trying to make here? No thanks.

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  10. this episode was sus, no mention of Tarrio being an FBI informant, which was known by January 27th when the guardian published an article.

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