tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4891114758163865289.post4846683117434740169..comments2024-03-28T10:11:40.572-04:00Comments on VISUP: Man's Son Part IReclusehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13510266038933358020noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4891114758163865289.post-56540163033651895402017-07-31T00:42:38.978-04:002017-07-31T00:42:38.978-04:00We, (conspiracy researchers) certainly seem to be ...We, (conspiracy researchers) certainly seem to be converging upon the same conclusion that Charles Manson was yet another intelligence orchestrated false flag with mind bending results. I would encourage Recluse and his readers to also consider Miles Mathis take on the event which adds several more twists, including the notion that Sharon Tate and the others faked her death and was relocated under a pseudo nom. He also floats the idea that the La Bianca murders were an actual hit performed by insiders for other reasons. Best wishes and keep up the fantastic Blog. Frank Friviloushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12257579016424621401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4891114758163865289.post-16493110598405407662014-05-10T19:39:32.098-04:002014-05-10T19:39:32.098-04:00Anon-
Increasingly I've begun to suspect that...Anon-<br /><br />Increasingly I've begun to suspect that the Manson killings and several of the other signature events that mired the counterculture were the result of reactionary forces working under the auspices of the American Gladio network. I began to outline this theory in my examination of the Process Church, which can be found <a href="http://visupview.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-process-strange-and-terrible.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I hope to expand on this notion at some point in the (hopefully near) future.<br /><br /><br />-RecluseReclusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13510266038933358020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4891114758163865289.post-562426259747578542014-05-02T21:31:33.785-04:002014-05-02T21:31:33.785-04:00The Manson episode certainly put a huge stain on &...The Manson episode certainly put a huge stain on "hippies" and served to discredit the anti-war movement as well.<br />What better way to derail a movement that sought to disempower the MIC, and the politicians that cheered it on, than to use people seen as being related to the "peace" movement, fill them with mind altering drugs and send them out to kill.<br />I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the CIA or some other government agency worked to bring the Manson events into reality.<br />So many of the "peace" activists ended up being absorbed by the very system they protested against.<br />Mission accomplished, the status quo was preserved, and the empire rolls on, with each of us being mere pawns on the game board.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4891114758163865289.post-45739262639185206522012-03-14T22:01:59.783-04:002012-03-14T22:01:59.783-04:00Miss G-
Thank you very much for your thoughtful r...Miss G-<br /><br />Thank you very much for your thoughtful response and for sharing your Manson story.:) <br /><br />I think Peter Levenda's theory that Manson (as well as several other noted 60/70s radicals) practiced a form of Nazi-derived Gnosticism is probably the most accurate description of his belief system. Several ancient Gnostic sects held the belief that Jesus Christ and Lucifer were the same being. <br /><br />The notion of a universal mind of God reminds of Jung's theories of the collective unconsciousness, which he believed was something that all human possessed separate of their own personal experiences. According to John Keel, one of the chief secrets of various secret societies over the centuries has been methods of establishing contact with the universal mind. Keel writes:<br /><br />"Once an individual had committed himself, he opened a door so that an indefinable something (probably an undetectable mass of intelligent energy) could actually enter his body and exercise some control over his subconscious mind. The soul was directly linked with the superintelligence and with all similar souls, thus making possible mental telepathy, prophetic dreams, and other wonders. In those thousands of cases in which this subconscious force lapsed over into the conscious mind, we find destructive fanaticism and obsession. If the controlling intelligence is Omega (antihuman), the stricken individual suffers from insanity or commits criminal actions, social disorders, and so on."<br />(Our Haunted Planet, pg. 124)<br /><br />I've addressed the Nazi/Gnostic belief system I believe Manson and several other notables have followed before <a href="http://visupview.blogspot.com/2012/02/latin-american-high-weirdness-cults-vi.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I will probably be coming back this topic again on the current series I'm working on, which is about the Zebra killings that occurred in San Francisco in 1973 and 1974.<br /><br />That's interesting about the System of a Down singer. I was never a huge fan of the group but I always find several of the lyrics on their debut (the only album by them I have) very striking every time I play it. I'll have to go back and listen again. <br /><br /><br />-RecluseReclusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13510266038933358020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4891114758163865289.post-46981040102733950282012-03-11T07:23:08.582-04:002012-03-11T07:23:08.582-04:00By the way I liked your article. I've been re...By the way I liked your article. I've been researching the Esalen and the Manson connection for the past couple of weeks. I got a letter from Manson in which he wrote on the envelope that Jesus Christ is now Satan and the Devil. I've also heard Charlie in some of his recent ATWA (Air Trees Water and Animals a non-profit org named by Manson)sermons via prison telephone calls preach that we are all God. So, I feel like Manson is still trying to control people he has contact with. I'm trying to figure out for who though. He's in a prison cell, so his environmental spew will never benefit him personally. I wanted to see if there was a connection between Esalen and ATWA, there is one I could find. There is a song called ATWA by System of a Down, the lead singer is well connected to Esalen. <br /><br />I was thinking if something or someone big wanted to control the masses the way Charlie controlled his family, wouldn't it only be possible if the masses believed they were all part of a universal mind or God, otherwise it would be pretty hard to do if everyone were engaging in independent thought. <br /><br />Charlie paid me a compliment sort of, he said he thought I was too smart for him. I got the feeling he didn't want to write anymore than the one letter, which was fine with me.Miss Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353294925156807923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4891114758163865289.post-76053274223318189392012-03-11T06:52:47.882-04:002012-03-11T06:52:47.882-04:00Actually Charles Tex Watson later admitted that Ch...Actually Charles Tex Watson later admitted that Charlie did not tie the La Bianca's up. The only truth to the story is known to the people who were actually there. Charles Tex Watson has changed his story considerably since the trial and he pretty much takes credit for all of it. It's hard to say what the truth is, when you got a guy like Tex Watson who was frying his balls off on Bella Donna and LSD and amped out of his mind on meth most of the time, a prosecutor who was doing his best for the LAPD and the District Attorney's office to make a circus out of the trial so the media and the public would quit thinking about and questioning the Kennedy assassination, and an undereducated defendant like Manson who speaks in metaphors all the time. The more a person researches the family and the murders the more confused they get. The LaBianca police report says there was no blood splatters, and that Mr. La Bianca totally out of character had his newspaper on an end table by the couch instead of at the Dining Room table like he always did. Their three dogs who barked at all strangers are not remembered barking that night by the neighbors who also heard nothing else, like screams, yells, etc. Leno had a fork in his carotid artery for God's sake, and there was no blood splatter? The whole thing makes very little sense. So who's to say what the truth is about who tied the La Bianca's up.Miss Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01353294925156807923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4891114758163865289.post-37075435154859989742011-10-19T15:46:22.242-04:002011-10-19T15:46:22.242-04:00Just one problem with your fine research,..Manson ...Just one problem with your fine research,..Manson was at the LaBianca crime scene,..he helped tie the victims up,..so he did play a role in the murders.<br /><br />John Phillips and Abigale Folger were also said to be supporting Manson with money,..but this lacks any clear evidence.<br /><br />Don`t overlook locations,..The Family were also at Cole Street, SF.<br /><br />And in London,..both Roman and Sharon lived just a few streets from The Process Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com